Ep. 21 Interview with LaToya Murray-Johnson: Passion-led Doula Mentor

We talk about it ALL in part 2 of our interview with LaToya, owner of Doula View and creator of The Birth Impact.  She shares so many “passion points” you don’t want to miss.  

When I ask if her births impact how she works with moms and families now as both a doula and as a doula mentor…...“My whole life impacts how I deal with mamas now…..my name is LaToya and I am imperfect”  She’s been through abuse, domestic violence, divorce, infant loss, and has come out the other side to impart her knowledge, care, passion, and compassion for birthing families. 

She is passion-led.  Her life story drives all that she does, and just as we talk about how doulas support moms and families, LaToya leans on her own support system to be the best “Christian, doula, wife, mother, and certified birth nerd” she can be.  When I asked how she does it all…..”you can always find that forward movement, where can you keep moving forward…...think outside the box”

And doulas - listen up!  In addition to her doula work, she mentors doulas to help them find their footing and to embrace the aspect of moving forward for their authentic selves.  Her passion for birth is contagious, and she truly is a birth servant.

Connect with LaToya:

Website: Doula View 

Facebook https://www.facebook.com/TheLamazeDoula

Instagram https://www.instagram.com/doulaviewllc/

Website: The Birth Impact

Instagram https://www.instagram.com/thebirthimpact/ 

Facebook https://www.facebook.com/TheBirthImpact 

This podcast was created from a desire to share conversations and interviews about topics from pregnancy and birth to motherhood and the importance of a healthy body and mind through it all.  Our goal is to bring you fun, interesting, and helpful conversations that excite you and make you want to learn more.

We hope what we share will make an impact and help someone else along their journey.

We believe that when you are aligned in body, mind, and your intuition, you can conquer anything!

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Transcript

Unknown 0:04

Hello hello aligned birth podcast, family, friends and listeners Dr. Shannon here today and today is part two of an interview with the amazing Latoya, Marie Johnson who is self described Christian doula wife, mother, certified birth nerd, and you gotta listen to part one of the interview that we did last time, because that's what we dove into so much of what she does in the doula world so Latoya is a doula and she is the owner of doula view LLC supports families birth of all types and last interview we, I want to share just nuggets of words that I wrote down because she's planting seeds of knowledge. She's the catalyst for releasing fear. We talked about birth, virtual birth support. We talked about women that don't even know what their bodies are capable of we're flipping the mindset of birth, it was, I don't know, it was, it was mind blowing so you've got to go listen to that to listen to more of how she supports the families and the clients that she works with, But it doesn't interfere with her doula work because she's also the creator of the birth impact community, so this is the grassroots effort about impacting negative birth culture through a sisterhood of birth workers and birth enthusiasts so today we're diving into what is the birth income impact community. Why is she a doula How did she get into this and a little bit of her birth story and how all of that relates so I am so excited to have you on the show Latoya. Thank you Shannon Oh you're so awesome for doing that. And here we go we're gonna have this whole nother birth rabbit hole right, we are, I love birth rabbit holes. I know I every interview I do I'm like let's just go down the rabbit hole I'm like, I gotta watch the time because these rabbit holes can lead you So, yes, I Yeah, everybody has to listen to part one of the interview because I got so many goosebumps in that but you mentioned, I don't know where you want to start with this so I'm going to say I want to mention that you said in the last interview that birth was your hobby that you started studying birth at 15. So let's go back to 15 year olds. And what brought you to wanting to do that and look at where you are today. Girl, god, okay, let me, let me. Yeah, that's something so I told you that they have this little ongoing thing in my house, you know, for those who are old enough. I'm talking about being old enough for those who are old enough to remember Blockbuster Video.

Unknown 2:43

You know, normally when people say, be aware of what someone's watching they're thinking about something else right so the thing is never go into the toys room, because you never know what she's watching, so it was always a woman in labor, a woman birthing breastfeeding something going on and they're like, Just like.

Unknown 3:02

And I was so I was infatuation actually is pretty accurate with accurate. I was obsessed with it, I thought it was so miraculous so awesome, so, so beautiful, and I just wanted to keep learning I studied book after book and I was like, it was just this weird quirk that God put in me. I don't know why it was there, it just, and I kept feeding it. So when I went to I started going to college and I started having friends that were getting married and having babies I naturally started to become that pocket pregnancy girlfriend, because they knew who I was and they knew that I studied it and I also navigated to pregnant women, it was just so wonderful. But, so I started supporting my friends and my family through their birth naturally, I just did. I gravitated to what I am, and I was helping one, one of my friends and postpartum. She started showing signs of fever. She had just had a baby, and she was wondering what was going on with her. I was like you know what you probably have a postpartum infection you need to go on and get seen. So I went with her to the doctor, so they're probably gonna want to give you some antibiotics, you know, nothing big, but it is good to get on it as soon as possible. And so we go there and doctor says, Oh, you just have a postpartum infection, we're just gonna give you some antibiotics and send you on your way. I was like, I felt so good seeing you, you know, and then there was another friend that I had helped through birth in her second birth. We went to a Lamaze class. And that Lamaze educator was also a doula. And I was like, Well, What is a doula I've never heard that word before it but I had already said, I love what she's doing and educating, I'm going to get certified with the miles, I'm going to do it I'm gonna, I'm gonna teach people, and then she started listing off what a doula did, and the support they gave physical comfort measures education, informational support all of that holding space serving the client. And every time she gave a bit of the definition, it hit me like daggers slapped me in the face. You're like, yes, yes, even my best friend look he turns and looks at me and she's like, if you don't go do something about this right now. You, so I mean my journey you know life is not perfect, I was in school to be an OB GYN at Georgia State. And I got pregnant with my daughter, I still had a passion, I didn't know what it looked like I wanted to serve pregnant women I wanted to be in the field. And you know, Medical School and a newborn, not prayer is not for everybody. So, though, I went to corporate America instead. I loved it, it wasn't for me it wasn't who I was, I am. But during that time is when I helped this friend. So I started to, I got certified, and I started doula view LLC was a corporate America just, I had to do it. It was just part of who I was, so that's where my business started and then I branched off into homeschool which is another passion of mine, that God, like that's a whole nother animal.

Unknown 6:17

Love it. But I was led to do and thank God for supportive husband because no one can do it without support in some way.

Unknown 6:25

So, a brand stop, and it allowed me me staying home my kids allowed me to learn more and develop dual view LLC and start supporting birth, so that in a nutshell very very quick nutshell is how I, my life led, and of course in the midst of that I gave birth to two girls on my own. And those births. I mean I look back on had I been informed.

Unknown 6:50

I could have been so it could have been so different, You know, but I was, I wasn't informed I was blindsided I was intimidated into being induced.

Unknown 7:02

And I went to the hospital and with one of my girls at six centimeters, and this is another rabbit hole I may not go down right now but it's the importance of in inherited birth stories, we need to know through what lens to view them because though our mothers and our thoughts in our friends are well meaning in most cases, sometimes they are products of their generation. You know, if they were told they couldn't do it till they made an epidural told that you know. Well, I just had it as well because I needed to get a C section, you know, or even if the C section was better than a vaginal exam but, I mean natural birth but they've never had a vaginal birth, you know, why would you why would you do that, and a lot of cultures, especially talking to some of my Brazilian friends and people in other countries, it's treated like cosmetic surgery. Yes, you know, and they inherited that and that is so wrong, is it's abuse, honestly, and we just having the wool pulled off my eyes, through education, later on, can piss me off.

Unknown 8:10

Yeah, well, you know, so I was like oh no, never again, women need to be told, they need the whole buffet. Don't just give them certain portions you want them to eat, give them all of their options show them what their rights are and let them tell you what they're willing to do.

Unknown 8:29

Yeah, yeah. So yeah, that's one thing that did fuel me on top of the fire that was always already simmering, you know, yeah, was that having your own birth experience and like you, You lived it firsthand what women are dealing with, you know, having, having a birthday that's the day before a holiday, you know the statistics on that.

Unknown 8:52

See sections going up. That's another one that hit home because my birth story was always, you know, It was independence, approaching Independence Day and my 19 year old young mother goes in at four centimeters dilated to a doctor's appointment. And, oh, there's something going on with the baby's heart rate, we need to go ahead and just break your water get this labor started, they break the water get the labor started. Oh, she was just sleeping, but you're gonna have a baby now.

Unknown 9:22

And I was born, you know, not, I mean later for set via forceps delivery.

Unknown 9:28

Because they induced her and medicated her and she wasn't able to push, and she had no support you know there's no cell phones there and she was just going for, for a checkup. You know, nobody expected her to go into Burg into labor and labor, when my dad was in Germany, and my grandmother, you know, wasn't home, she didn't have a cell phone, so my 19 year old mother had an eight pound, eight ounce baby being 90 pounds soaking wet, by herself at home, at the hospital being induced, it was in total fear. So my inherited birth story was, I went to hell and back with you, honey.

Unknown 10:06

You know I was crying and sobbing and moaning and drugged up couldn't push it then you know forceps delivery you tear every we're very traumatic and laying on your back, you know, so that's what I inherited. Had I known what that she was a product of her generation especially. And I know she was already four centimeters dilated than when I was four centimeters dilated with my daughter, I would have known that something that just the women in my family do we tend to dilate, ahead of time. So at the end of the day, it shows me that my body was working and I didn't have to be doubtful. If the baby was fine and I was like why are we inducing me. I went to the hospital of six centimeters, why are you inducing me. It wasn't going fast enough. Yeah, that's exactly what they told me.

Unknown 10:58

It's your, we need to we need to speed this up, you know, but I mean, at the end of the day, you know, we have to be able to decipher what's needed for, I mean, unacceptable for us. With respect to the medical community in their trade, but we need to understand what's going on with our bodies before we give consent of anything. Yes. Now, did your birth to those impact how you deal with moms and families that you work with now.

Unknown 11:30

Shannon my whole life impacts how I deal with moms now. I have lost the child I have been that single divorcee. I have had a happy marriage. I mean, I believe, in the sanctity of life and I have had two abortions, when I tell you my life is an open book. I, this is how I deal with women. My name is Latoya, and I am imperfect, and I, and I'm living a life of experiences and journeys that have weakened me broken me down strengthened me made me ironclad in certain areas, and I give all of them to serve all of it, you know, without judgment, through love, you know, helping, this is how me, means losing a daughter my daughter Emery I lost her due to a domestic situation with my ex. And I was five months, just found out that I was having a baby girl, and I went into premature labor two weeks later, and having to go through that experience broke me. I had an I had a one year old, and I was going through a divorce. And now I had to deal with the loss of a child saying goodbye to that little baby kissing her for everyone who wasn't in the hospital and wasn't going to meet her, including her father, having to experience that turmoil, you think you would never find your way out of that, but being that I do, and I'm on the other side of it. I am able to walk through that valley with women and their support and their husbands and their, I am able to navigate and help them help encourage, I am able to voice things that other people may not be comfortable with. And I do believe different life experiences make different soldiers. Some soldiers can reach women in different ways, you know, I may be able to reach someone in a way that you care, and you may be able to reach someone in a way that I can't. And that's why we are all needed in the birth community, but everything that I've experienced every aspect of who I am, I'm unapologetic for, and I serve with it all know that that's what my clients get when they get a get. Don't make me cry with joy.

Unknown 13:51

Cry Baby chew.

Unknown 13:53

But that is beautiful and that's, I feel like a lot of folks who work in that birth worker world like you, you would put in to that, like you, there is that passion there and I love what you said that there's different life experiences make those different soldiers like it's, that's why I love people to interview, who you're working with, find who aligns with you, you know, it's fine that support team because you're gonna find people that speak to you that in a way that you need to hear it. You know, and people that have walked those, those journeys before and can help guide you, then it's okay if someone doesn't work for you like I'm not the doula for everyone, and I know it's important for doulas to be comfortable as well. You not I mean, I cannot be in such an intimate space and not feel chemistry with you or not, not aligned with your your philosophies or even your lifestyle, if there are certain things that I can't relate to you need. I mean that's why it's really important to have who you feel can can 100% support you. So there are different. There are different doulas and different support for different people and that's okay.

Unknown 15:12

And, you know it's sharing those.

Unknown 15:16

I don't know, I that's what I love present podcasters I want these birth workers to share those birth stories and it's not so much of the inherited birth stories but it's the, you know, there's a difference in that right, there's a difference in that I went to hell back to you but, and then there's a difference in. Well, This is what happened and this is what I learned from it. You know, I think that's, I think our birth stories need to be shared. But I think there's, there's a, there's a time and a place in a space and a way to do it. And I think you live your life through those stories and experiences which I think is so beautiful that you, you get to offer your clients. I can you imagine how that changes the next generation. When you can have a mother that doesn't see, then you got to think that mother that says I went to hell and back, you're not seeing the fact that she didn't feel supported, She wasn't informed. She was intimidated, she was scared her body belonged to someone else, and they controlled it.

Unknown 16:20

That is a dark place.

Unknown 16:22

Not saying that I couldn't handle birth. It's saying, I wasn't in the position to be able to.

Unknown 16:29

And there's a difference. I see women I see the difference, all the time between a woman who doesn't even remotely think she can handle a natural birth.

Unknown 16:40

Not even almost making it to the hospital because she's like, No, I'm fine. This is my space, I found my space. I'm not moving, we're good. And I'm like if we don't get to this.

Unknown 16:50

Like I'm glad you're feeling good, like you know I can't I can't lie you know it's like an unwritten dream for doulas to catch your baby but that is not my space, and I don't need to be there, we ask that.

Unknown 17:05

So, no, but the thing is women's. A lot of times when you have the support you need 90% And the studies to 90% of what a woman needs is her support. The other 10% Your body knows how to do or you're out of control of. So 90% of how you handle your birth, depends on whether or not you have competent support a birth team that is aligned and believes in your abilities imputes confidence imputes knowledge, and, and energy and vibes that build you up. You know what I mean so your provider, your doctor your midwife who you choose is your is the most important decision you make for your birth, so important. Oh my gosh, we just did an episode on choosing the birth provider, throw yeah and and that was, that's what it came down to it really it really really did, Because it's going to set the stage.

Unknown 18:03

It can definitely make or break your experience. So I like to, I like to relate doula work as just like realtors, you know, you you don't know that you don't know the area, so you hire a realtor to find you the best house at the best price in the best area and the best school district for the, you know, and you let them know what you want in a doula who works in the birth community knows the doctors who are mother friendly knows what the current regulations are for COVID knows how to best navigate Burse and help you and serve me through that and help you put yourself in a position networks with the people that can potentially be part of your birth team. Yes, I do know an amazing chiropractor near Kennesaw, you know, I mean, I, I can help point you you don't have to. You don't have to think about it, especially if you hired me, obviously trust my expertise, you know, so just having that person a part of your birth team really helps to alleviate a lot of the searching and you know the I'm on the server. Well, yeah, yeah, so just making that experience better is a beautiful thing. Now speaking of overwhelm.

Unknown 19:21

Mind you be a mother and you homeschool and you do the doula work so I want to know, and if the segues into a little bit of the birth impact committee that's fine if that's something completely separate but I want to go into how, what does this look like for you and how do you do all of those things. Well, it's everything was still just he knows I didn't say balance because there is no doubt about some days dating it some days it's 5050 we know that so I know that there's that flow to it but, um, yeah, just a little insight into that and how you do function. You know what I am, I'm the type of person I am right now I'm really, I'm passionate lead and I've never been happier in my life, no matter how difficult, complicated or chaotic it gets.

Unknown 20:15

It really is support, I have been blessed. Shannon with an amazing support system, because this journey since I was 15 was evident. So my mom is like, I knew this was happening, it just makes total sense whenever you need me to keep the kids let me do it, you know what I mean. And I married I'm married now to an amazing is my biggest support amazing husband, who doesn't mind me being away, sometimes he is at a time, with a client and he truly believes in my passion because ever since he's been dating me, it's who I am, in any medium, my children, I mean they know their birth stories and videos by heart and my friends so it really is a community around me that allows me to one have the freedom for my business to do what it is I need to do, and then just having the years of navigating what will work. Now as far as homeschooling, I think every year you just learn something different and make it work a little better, but it is a continuous growth, You know, trying to find reprioritizing because there's some times where my girls, they are posting their their self learning a lot mastering certain subjects at the end, especially, so I have a little more freedom when they're testing and they're just, they're just enhancing and just sharpening skills in certain areas, to where I can build my business a little more, a little more into it, but then we go to another level, and I have to taper off on my business and put more attention toward my family.

Unknown 21:46

And it's just literally every day looks different, and it's being able to keep your priorities, but then, you know, work smarter not harder, how can I make things easier. So I do like in my trainings to meet my trainees meet these doulas or aspiring doulas where they are, because you can always have poured movement, you can always have growth and make impact in some way, how does that look for you. Well, I have two young children, I can't really be at verse, all the time and I'll have to get babysitters and all this. So right now, where can you build your business can you start building your your knowledge base How many books have you read how many trainings have you taken. Have you shared that on social media are you building your social media platform, you can expose yourself, are you networking with the people that can potentially be a part of your clients birth team. Are you getting to know them, you know, reach out. There are many different things you could do to grow and build your business and build your platform, even if you can't be at a birth. At that moment, if you can't dedicate yourself to going full time or even, you know, part time, you can always continually make forward movement and it's just knowing how to navigate so that's why I mentor you, because sometimes you just need somebody to lay the gameplan out for you that's been there, you know, yes. Yeah, so, so that just finding how you can continue to move forward and when you're passionate about something, you'll find a way you will find a way I love that if you tap into that passion. And, you know, embrace some of, I guess that flexibility with the two, and being able to adapt, I mean that's what I always say in the office is part of my, you know, reason with being a chiropractor and trying to serve through chiropractic care is helping people to adapt to those stressors in their life and in a healthy manner so it's the same thing though with that business aspect as far as being able to adapt and say this is where I'm at now, doesn't mean I'm staying here, but I love that you said you know you can always move forward, you can always find that little bit of room to move forward.

Unknown 24:03

Right. Yeah, so for movement, I mean trainings are wonderful, tapping into those who've gone like if you're following someone on social media, and they have a pretty good platform or you love the stuff that they're putting out and you're really learning from them. You might want to see if they have, they offer mentorship. If you are in their area you might want to see if they will allow you to shadow, it will open up to that one or two opportunities to where you can observe a birth or you can see how they are in the midst of serving their clients. Even if you can't continuously be at someone's birth, you know just build nuggets and make yourself available, you know, reachable touchable seen. And so in one way or another start tagging and sharing other people's posts you know tag them show them that you're supporting them, and allowing them to reach your community, even if you can't physically at that time and not only connects you and makes you seen by them, but it shows that you're supportive and then it also shows your community that you want to educate them and you want them to be informed as well, making you a trusted source member. I know and that's like my, that's part of my love of that social media aspect of things. Now like I said I have this love hate relationship with it but I do love the access of information that it provides people now.

Unknown 25:27

What is your birth impact community.

Unknown 25:32

And what does it do and what are you doing with that. So this is my new baby, oh my goodness you know how you have a newborn and it's like I just want to be there all the time and you feel like you need to be there all the time and you're like I can't do this all the time, you know, the birth impact was born through COVID and, and we talked on the last interview about how virtual services really was, it just ignited as people were connecting more virtually.

Unknown 26:01

So I started reaching out and helping and supporting and serving women all over the world, literally Singapore Cyprus South Africa, Japan, I had some service mamas in Japan and doulas in Japan that you just, they just needed someone there that can help them navigate that unknown territory or that vulnerable space. It had such an impact. And I also had a passion about helping and showing other doulas, how to get started with it. And then I was like, Well, what about those birth enthusiasts that do follow my page and they just just aren't gawking over all the awesome pictures and information and they just take it in like I did when I was 15 and just studying everything. I was like, but they might think that they do the work is so far beyond what they can do right now. They just don't know either how they can be a part of the birth community how they can support, and I want to show them an avenue and encourage them, bring them together, you know, so that person in Cyprus maybe if she's gone through a training or a birth with me. How can I uplift in touch my community, how can I encourage that next Mother, how can I make an impact. You know, so I was like, you know something, there's something here so I, my confidence with virtual trainings and just reaching people that way, built, and I started teaching a workshop. Now this workshop and I just closed it off after a couple years for it for now, but this workshop gave the basics, it literally equipped, three hours that was packed when I tell you packed full of all of the gap fillers for doulas all of the first, how to get started as a Versa fuzziness. Who wants to be a doula for that new doula who just wasn't confident teaching, or how do I serve it loaded them up I gave them contracts, I gave them infographics at the end, and I created started creating this birth impact community so that we could just follow each other's success courage each other support. And I also want them formulating a directory. Worldwide, it'll feel just like a baby it'll grow, but that person in an area where doulas are rare and it's not a thing. I think the last time I talked to someone that was in Suriname, and another one that was in the in the in the Midwest and then like Saudi Arabia in the Middle East. Yeah, in the Middle East.

Unknown 28:36

And they, she told me, I am a doula at heart. I am so passionate about this and the women here really needed we really don't have much rights when it comes to birth, there's a culture that you don't ask you know C sections or Hi, I am taboo, and I'm going against the grain, I need to link with sisters that's going to impute into me, give me good support and encouraged me because right now I am it. And that is just to show a sisterhood and support to me in linking arms, no matter how far we are we are all fighting pretty much the same fight in birth, we are all navigating all seeking better rights, and in trying to find ourselves, honestly, so I started that community, with all the people who had taken my workshop.

Unknown 29:28

And then it just started to grow so everyone who was in the birth community in private group online. It started to grow, and I developed the birth impact organization. So this is going to be an avenue for people to get trained to network, it'll be a directory to find that person that can teach you the minimal that they can do is teach you a way to navigate and to understand the rights you have in birth, no matter where you are, and how to create create space. If you can do that you can make an impact in someone's birth, period. So, there's a lot of wonderful things that's coming down with the birth impact and I'm, I'm talking about big things for those who want to be able to serve women in birth, and don't have an avenue to do so or a training or an outlet, but that's what it is, it's so that we can be empowered, we can definitely learn and grow and be educated and fellowship with those that are like minded, oh my goodness, it's so great to meet a kindred spirit in there's nothing like it. Shannon, We understand that. I understand that I know, I know.

Unknown 30:39

And it doesn't matter where you are, it doesn't you can, I mean, meaning a chiropractor and talking to a chiropractor in Egypt, that is aligned with you and being part of the birth team and helping women see how chiropractic can make a difference in birth, especially for a mom that's having difficulty physically for a mom who wants someone that knows the Webster technique, you know what I mean, someone who did that doesn't even know those options are available to them BNL so it's a beautiful thing. So that is just a little bit of what the birth impact has come to be it is a community of like minded people no matter what path of life you're on, if you're meeting us in birth and you are passionate about that.

Unknown 31:23

We are your people, and if you want certain trainings you just, you want intership you want, or even for those who are seeking support. If you want to find that doula if you want to find that midwife if you want that chiropractor, whoever that pretty much aligns itself with our, our outline our motto. What do you call it, the meaning, the mission statement. Our mission, you know, if you're looking for someone that supports you and wants you to totally be in control of the decisions made and be confident in to serve you, then that's what the birth impact is about, we really do want to give women and birth a platform to stand on a foundation of support no matter what that looks like, even if it's through a test, text message on Facebook. What do I do next, is this the time that I should go into the hospital, let me send you a picture, what is that, is that my mucus plug. I'm an hour away from the hospital in Cypress Creek. This is this is a conversation I had with someone in totally different country, you know, you should I go now, you know, what do you think you know well these are your options how comfortable are you with that. It makes a difference having someone that can brainstorm this with you, you know, and navigate help you navigate, and they, you know ciphers is singing my praises and I'm like, Honey, this was over a Facebook message in any maker, and just serving in whatever way you can, but helping those who desire to have an another avenue of preparing themselves, and community with like minded people. I have a little bit of a community with like minded people aspect as well too because you know that does help you brainstorm and learn new things, and I'm getting the vibe of empowerment, you know, empowering women in a way around that word, no way around it. But yeah, I know and you know, Rachel and I had done a couple of interviews, recently with each other, and something that came up in both of them was, it kind of came to me from, you know, Wizard of Oz when it's like Dorothy you've had the power along, you know, you had it all along, we just got, we just got to tap into it and that's part of from finding those like minded people and keep searching and keep asking questions, and continuing to reach out and give of yourself, that literally is how the birth impact came to be. I was like there's a lot of things that I feel in my training, I wasn't prepared for when it came to starting my business. I didn't leave training feeling confident in teaching. I didn't feel confident in the blueprint of how to serve. Yeah, I knew how to use a rebozo and I knew birth positions and you know the basis I said but I don't feel prepared, so I was like, I need to fill in that gap. I want to fill in that gap for people, and that's how it started. It just giving of yourself in certain ways, turned into me mentoring turn into me giving that and opening it up to people in other countries, and then introducing them to the people that have already taken I mean, so these are now people all over the world that are feeding off of the energy of like minded people. And that's how you push against any movement. That's how you encourage someone in Suriname, that they are not crazy, for believing in their abilities, even though everyone else is telling them that, that they are not crazy for wanting to support it. And honestly, some of them risk going to jail for going against what certain government is telling women they should be doing with their body and their babies, you know, so they're, they're telling women that no you don't have to have a C section, you can breastfeed your baby. This will interfere if you don't have to intervene with this if it's, if it's nothing's wrong. You know, just giving them the confidence in the nature of it, which is more intelligent, honestly than any thing that we can make up. But then if there is a medical necessity thank God for the hospitals, but we don't we don't be little. The Intelligent Design of how we were made. That was so beautiful right there because yes, thank God for the that medical assumption when we need it. But gosh we are so beautifully and wonderfully and magically and miraculously made, you know, and I think that should be honored as well, and tapped into so I love the support that you are providing not only at burning families but the people that can help the birthing payments, definitely. So if anyone wants to be a part of the birth impact you can go to the birth impact.com.

Unknown 36:21

Then we do have a page on Facebook the birth impact and also on Instagram.

Unknown 36:28

It is continuously growing I do the website by myself so that's a little slower going, but definitely if you have any questions, if you are interested in finding about finding more just send us a message, and reach Ramat and Latoya is all over social media as well, with dual view website and then dual view on Instagram and Lamaze doula on Facebook as well and we're gonna link all of these things in to the show notes, I love, I love speaking with you. And I love how vulnerable you are and sharing your story, because I know someone is going to hear it, And, you know, relate to it. And that's, that's what we need in this world.

Unknown 37:18

Thank you so much for this time. Thank you for being passionate, and just saying, You know what I want a podcast, I can, I mean seriously, that in itself is great because it shows that you have intention, you have a heart for it, you know, and that you are my people so I respect and honor that and thank you for the space that you own, you know you to have your story, you know what I mean, you have your story of overcoming and why you got into chiropractic work which is absolutely beautiful and every success story you have, I think he just posted one about. Was it you or was Dr. Stone about baby turning whooping oh I had a Brit yeah breech mom baby flip, yeah.

Unknown 38:04

That's because as a feedback mama, she's feedback helpful so now we're really lining up for for that so brought that you help bring that hope to that mom. And if what if she didn't know that a chiropractor could assist in that way. And I mean, it really made a big difference. So thank you for the face that you hold, but that's, that's the whole point is these stories these stories we have we go through these things not to just hold on to it, you know, and keep it to ourselves right, this little light line. So, that's the whole point is you hide under a bushel now.

Unknown 38:42

I noticed the point so I love, I love speaking with you, I love all that you do and that you share and your energy as well to my friend, is there anything else that you wanted to, I don't know, share, or go over with it, maybe we didn't know we didn't touch on today. I know we touched on some things. I know what I think we covered everything. I really, I really just want your listeners to know that no matter where you are in the birth community, you can really influence the next person that next mom you seeds planted even if you've heard something in this podcast, a little something a tidbit that they may not have known, you know what I mean, that can cause a dramatic ripple effect in their birth experience so please be confident in that. And if you're listening to this podcast, obviously you are like minded and you are on people. Because you don't just come and say oh and listen to people talk about birth.

Unknown 39:38

Exactly. So, so thank you for that for being part of the birth community. I love knowing that we have this sisterhood. I do want to say one thing for doulas, and this is a passion point for me.

Unknown 39:51

Be unique. Listen to what it is you are Driven By You do not have to be that next doula. You do not have to look like anyone else. At the end of the day, we have negative birth culture amongst doulas as well. Okay, we have to make sure that we are giving evidence based research to our clients. We have to make sure that we are not just following a culture of birth, we really have to be there to serve mama and what I am finding sometimes there, we can get caught up in going against hospitals and demonizing different things and having certain mindsets that are not necessarily evidence base, so we just have to be careful about that and not giving in, we are combating birth, negative birth culture in every arena, not just in the medical field, but we have to recognize it in our bonus well. Ah, that's, that is huge to them so being that authentic self. And I know, being true to you, and giving Mama's the best support that they can, so much fun today my friend, I love you bunches.

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